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An Op-Ed piece about the movie "States of Grace" and its lack of official acceptance on the BYU campus. I think this article has some direct parallels to what people will and will not sustain on this sight. Some things are true and uplifting moreso when our impulse to sanitize is squelched.

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While a large part of me regrets not attending BYU and going to a state school instead, this is one of those reminders on why I chose not to go.
written by ldsfilm 735 days ago
    Another school would never have had States of Grace on its radar in the first place. There is open discussion of school policies at BYU (like this piece), but in the end the institution makes the choices it feels are in line with its values, the same as any other school. Don't get me wrong -- I sustained this article because I think the film should get a place. But "this kind of thing" (institutions enforcing their values) is universal, not just at BYU.
    written by TedB 735 days ago
I've opposed this because it was posted as a subtle criticism of BYU and the Church. Neither BYU nor the Church has prohibited its members from watching States of Grace. In fact, BYU even permitted Julie Espinosa to state her opinion on its NewsNet website. There's nothing sinister here, folks. BYU simply has the right to decide what will be shown in an official forum.
written by gospelcougar 734 days ago
    It is a subtle criticism, not of BYU or the Church, but of a group mentality that I find harmful to our community and our own personal growth.

    You are mistaken my friend. I love the Gospel and the Church. I even find much redeeming and good about BYU. However, to hold my tongue about the issue at hand would be doing no one a favor. You are right, BYU allowed Julie to post a good editorial. The point is an important one people should hear IMHO. Yet, somehow publishing it here is harmful to the Church? Help me out here. BYU nor the Church prohibits this opinion from being shared but you do? For the Chruch's sake? I don't think so.
    written by Doc 734 days ago
"It is a subtle criticism, not of BYU or the Church, but of a group mentality that I find harmful to our community and our own personal growth."

No, it is a criticism of a BYU official decision. Questioning an official decision isn't questioning a mentality of any other group other than the one making the decision. Or maybe the "mentality" thing may be better defined as a "series of decisions".
written by Hhhhh 734 days ago
Doc, if I mistook your criticism of good Church members' trust in their leaders ("group mentality") for criticism of BYU officials, I apologize. But you are certainly wrong about one thing. I did not "prohibit this opinion from being shared" by opposing it nor did I call for a prohibition of your opinion or Julie's. I simply brought to light the true nature of your post so readers could cast away rather than plant your seed of doubt.

Interestingly, the moment I read your reply, it immediately reminded me of the tone of Giddianhi's epistle to Lachoneus (3 Nephi 3).

Your comment: "You are mistaken my friend. I love the Gospel and the Church. I even find much redeeming and good about BYU. However,.... BYU nor the Church prohibits this opinion from being shared but you do?"

Giddianhi: "Lachoneus, most noble and chief governor of the land, behold, I write this epistle unto you, and do give unto you exceedingly great praise because of your firmness, and also the firmness of your people.... and knowing of their everlasting hatred towards you because of the many wrongs which ye have done unto them..."

I'm not saying you're a Gadianton robber; rather, I'm saying be careful where you're headed. Your comment had that same condescending and patronizing tone followed by a false accusation of wrongdoing.
written by gospelcougar 733 days ago
When does "bringing to light true meaning" end and twisting words to create the straw man begin. I feel we are talking past each other so let me explain. The decision not to show the movie in each case was made by leaders who, while enjoying the movie themselves, had fears based on it depicting "suicide, illicit love, gangbangers and struggling missionaries." These were the reason these leaders gave for not showing the movie. These fears are what I was referring to by group mentality and Julie disagrees with strenuously in the article, backed up by Brigham Young himself.

"We should study not only good, and its effects [...] but evil, and its consequences. I intend to know the whole of it, both good and bad. Shall I practice evil? No; neither have I told you to practice it, but to learn by the light of truth every principle there is in existence in the world."

Then she asks why we (not our leaders) fear stories with characters making poor decisions, not to glorify the decisions but to highlight tragedy, and in this case, emphasize the miracle of forgiveness and the atonement.

Again, sometimes some things are true and uplifting moreso when our impulse to sanitize is squelched. This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, this is not the Church, this is not criticism of leaders, it is quite simply fear that many in our midst hold as a group. The gospel of Jesus Christ has not given us the spirit of fear but of a sound understanding. Please realize that that sinking feeling that something is wrong when reading this post is not because it is actually evil, but because fear is rearing itself in the back of your mind.
written by Doc 732 days ago
'it is quite simply fear that many in our midst hold as a group.'

Thanks for the discount online psychoanalysis.

I just want to make sure I understand Julie's thesis (and yours). It seems you're proposing that analyzing evil through its repercusions in others' lives is benefitial, and you criticize the idea that abstaining from such is part of a harmful attitude. Am I correct?
written by Hhhhh 629 days ago
    Yes, except you are forgetting it is Brigham Young's thesis as well. Also Lehi's "There must needs be opposition in all things." and Eve's "it is better to pass through sorrow that we may know Joy."

    How better than to learn through the experience of others? We avoid the harm such decisions can inflict on us personally. Living a sheltered existence will deny us personal growth. While the miracle of forgiveness is available to all, it is those who have experienced the worst that gain the most profound appreciation of it, and by conversation, engagement, and empathy, we too can have our own appreciation profoundly deepened.
    written by Doc 628 days ago

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