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In response to a By Common Consent post about Scientology, a Scientologist discusses and rebuts several popular notions about what Scientologists actually believe, and how they are similar to Mormons.

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"Anyway, none of this is intended to proselytize. I’ve lived among Mormons in SLC and consider LDS a legitimate religion that creates a sane, vibrant culture with excellent values. All I’m saying is, don’t believe all the crap that they write about us. I certainly don’t believe all the crap the tabloids write about you. Fair enough?"

That is fair enough. I am not prone to sympathize with Scientologist doctrine and/or theories, but I will regard their views with respect.
written by Hhhhh 646 days ago
I'm not willing to even go this far. In Canada the church's intelligence department got members in government positions to leak incriminating evidence to the church regarding ex-members. The church itself was convicted of breach of trust in Ontario. I'm always interested in NRM's but Scientology needs to have eyes kept on them. They've showed a significant penchant for flouting the law.... much like mid to late 19th century Mormons.

Can I just renew my sheer grumpyness with fundamentalists of all stripes? There's just something about the nearness of the end times and exclusionary beliefs that turns people into violent raving lunatics.
written by canadiancynic 646 days ago
    Church's intelligence dept., hahahaha...

    I'm all for keeping tabs on groups who may be breaking the law, even it is politically incorrect. So, I don't oppose investigating scientology. I do oppose the use of stupid rumors and blatantly deceiving sources though, as any rational person ideally would.

    And about 19th century Mormons, I'm willing to cut them all the necessary slack against the discriminatory, unconstitutional laws who chased them out of the country's limits, out into Indian territory. America is a great country, but its presidents and officers have not always been (Van Buren, Boggs et al.)

    About violent raving lunatics, I agree. We especially need to keep an eye on radical liberals, they are by far the worst. They are the only wacko culture in the world who kill unborn babies.
    written by Hhhhh 645 days ago
    Please describe these 'radical liberals'. I've read Andrea Dworken, I've read Marx... I've yet to discover this mythic creature called the 'radical liberal' outside of wacky cults. Indeed, outside of wacky cults I've never seen the mythic creature called the 'radical conservative'. I have seen liberals get very frustrated with the unspoken sexism and racism that pervades our culture and say stupid things, like the facist tag that is all to often thrown around. I've also seen conservatives upset with the moral decay of society and advocate the murder of prominent members of government.

    Please educate yourself on the socioeconomic, racial and cultural elements that complicate the abortion debate. I'd suggest a book with first person accounts, incorporating both sides. It removes the idealistic 'ban everything' approach and introduces one to the people involved.
    written by canadiancynic 644 days ago
Hollow, meaningless bloggernacle drama. Not worthy of dissemination, imho.

Having studied Scientology and found some good and applicable truth in some of their beliefs/practices, I found Ronan's initial 'scientology rule' to be ridiculous, smug, and even somewhat offensive.

had there been some real substance to this post in itself, by way of an overview of Scientology, Dianetics, or some of their more compelling world views (i.e. attitudes about psychiatry), I would have sustain'd it. As it is, and as I said above, it's just hollow 'nacle drama, and of little interest to anyone beyond the MA.
written by naiah 646 days ago

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